little discoveries in The Big Fight
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little discoveries in The Big Fight
It is interesting to read the wellknown story in another translation. Every translator has his difficulties but sometimes also surprising solutions. For instanceBig Fight p.18,1. The french original has "futur vaincu" (soon besieged" I suppose). The english version presents a Latin phrase: victurus te saluto. This is a variation of the famous "morituri te salutant", presumably said by gladiators to the emperor as they enter the Circus: "those who are destined to die are saluting you" becomes "I, who am going to win salute you".
Then there is the playing with words related to "pot" (20,9 "pot luck" or 21,6 "pot shots"). The name Infirmopurpus (21,1) pleases me. I 15,1 Vitalstatistix starts his speech by saying "Friends, Gauls, countrymen" - allusion to Shakespeares opening-sentence by Marc Antony in "Julius Caesar" ("Friends, ROMANS, Countrymen, lend me your ears"). 27,8 "Gone with the wind" reminds of the famous cinema film.
Finally three questions on details:
1. 16,4 The order of the BATH" must contain some allusion to something I don't recognize; what is it?
2. 23,3 What is the joke in "body and SOLE"?
3. 25,1 "Pompey's body lies a-mouldering in the grave but his sole (again!) goes marching on" This must be a play with some wellknown english song, I suppose? Is it a phrase from the famous "glory, glory, hallelujah"?
Jaap
Then there is the playing with words related to "pot" (20,9 "pot luck" or 21,6 "pot shots"). The name Infirmopurpus (21,1) pleases me. I 15,1 Vitalstatistix starts his speech by saying "Friends, Gauls, countrymen" - allusion to Shakespeares opening-sentence by Marc Antony in "Julius Caesar" ("Friends, ROMANS, Countrymen, lend me your ears"). 27,8 "Gone with the wind" reminds of the famous cinema film.
Finally three questions on details:
1. 16,4 The order of the BATH" must contain some allusion to something I don't recognize; what is it?
2. 23,3 What is the joke in "body and SOLE"?
3. 25,1 "Pompey's body lies a-mouldering in the grave but his sole (again!) goes marching on" This must be a play with some wellknown english song, I suppose? Is it a phrase from the famous "glory, glory, hallelujah"?
Jaap
- The Order of the Bath is a well-known Order of English Knights
- Sole is a common fish (the cauldron smells of fish), whereas "Soul" which sounds the same, is divine spirit ("keeping body & soul together" is a flowery but once very common expression for staying alive)
- The song (John Brown's Body) is actually American, and yes, the music from it was later used for "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" (the chorus of which is the famous "glory, glory, hallelujah") ... as for the repeat of sole ... A&O are both making fish jokes at this point due to the smell (and "sole" can also mean the bottom of the foot or shoe (the fish was named for its physical resemblence to a sandal) -- quite appropriate to "marching on")